极速赛车168最新开奖号码 Comments on: ‘Dismay’ over university proposal to axe social work course https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/ Social Work News & Social Care Jobs Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:15:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 Students studying 极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Jane https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129477 Thu, 25 May 2017 09:34:30 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129477 A very interesting debate – I don’t think it matters where and how people are trained to qualify as a social worker. There are a number of places to do this in the North East. I would equally recommend Sunderland University, Northumbria and indeed Durham but really I don’t think this is the issue. If an individual is driven enough to be a social worker, then they will apply to whichever place of learning seems appropriate and/or cheaper! Fast-track schemes are not a problem either – all we need to know at the end of any of these educational routes is that the people who become qualified are able to do the job. I have come across a couple of Durham graduates in social work and some of the students on that course who frankly did not have a clue about the real world out there – and who had enrolled on the social work MA for reasons I could not understand. Having said that, this applies to anyone who wants to do this very difficult and thankless job regardless of where and how they wish to do their training. Perhaps something that needs to be considered urgently is how people who are already employed by councils in a social work support role and/or more mature students who have much life experience to bring to the role could find a part/time course to enrol on that does not involve multiple day/time attendance that will not be congruent with family life and other commitments. I think the profession is missing out on this pool of talent due to the “academic” way this is now all considered – similar to nursing in fact. I would like to hear some comments from people about my views. Thanks.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: WDA https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129473 Thu, 25 May 2017 07:38:47 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129473 Not being a Social Worker but working hard to support the CPD needs of social workers across Adults and Children’s services I’m quite saddened to see a comment ” “business recruits” leading social care believe they know it all” – actually we don’t believe we know it all. What surprises me is that many of the above comments, by people who are social work trained have failed to even think about service users, the vulnerable people in our society who need our help. I may not have direct contact with these individuals but in everything I do to support social workers and the wider social care workforce they are at the forefront of my mind. Yes we do have Step Up, Frontline and Think Ahead, but we also support four HEIs across the region to find suitable, worthwhile placements, we don’t treat any student regardless of where they are studying or which route they have chosen any differently they all get the support, guidance and experience they rightly deserve. Yes it is sad to hear the new that Durham Uni are considering ending their Social Work Masters Programme, but I suspect as someone has already pointed out that it is more to do with image and and league tables and actually Social Work doesn’t fit well with Durham’s fundamental student offer.

We need to stop this blame culture it is counter productive and only serves to demoralise our workforce in a time when leaders should be inspiring and resilient. There is room for everyone in the world of social work regardless of their chosen educational route, there will be good and bad students from all pathways. My worry after reading some of the comments above is that if the Social Work Apprenticeship Programme is adopted in the North East how will these students be viewed – I dare not even imagine!

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Anon https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129470 Thu, 25 May 2017 06:29:05 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129470 In reply to Charlotte.

You need to get your facts right, the step up to Social Work Programme has no summer institute

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: PSW https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129460 Wed, 24 May 2017 14:55:46 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129460 A couple of points from me:
as a qualified practice educator & manager within the north east I would like to challenge the view that by signing up to the fast track programmes we have struggled to meet our MOU agreement to provide quality placements for students on ‘traditional’ university programmes. In our local authority we have continued to meet all of our commitments to placement requests.
There is room for many routes into social work and we should be open to these. I qualified 25 years ago through the CQSW route – 2 years to become a qualified social worker and have since completed a degree in Health & Social Care – does that make me any less of a social worker than others completing their training through a social work degree route or a fast track route? We should focus on the qualities, values and skills individuals have to turn them into a good social worker rather than which route they took to get there.
I do think it is sad that Durham are proposing to close their social work course – this is as a result of HEI’s, like many other public sector organisations, having to run as a business rather than a public service. The quality of the service delivered is of little consequence if the provision is ‘not financially viable’ – but who can put a cost on quality social work?

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Anon Academic https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129459 Wed, 24 May 2017 14:43:56 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129459 This is disappointing new. I totally agree with Jim; the speed at which these changes are being driven by the Government is unhelpful to the profession overall. Not enough is known about the quality and output of fast track courses, compared to the traditional route. University social work programmes have been subjected to so much change in the last 6 years, they have little time to implement the change and research the effectiveness, before something else comes along.

We are likely to see further shortages of social workers if this trends continues. Several courses have already closed their doors. Social work is a hard profession – those students eligible for fast track courses are not immune to the stresses and strains of practice. They need a good grounding in complex academic concepts and ideas to function effectively as a practitioner and ensure self care. Fast track schemes aimed at propping up in the profession in the short term, getting more people out their in to practice are short sighted. Many of these social workers of the future will learn how to function in a team with depleted resources and depleted supervision and guidance. They will not learn the basics of good social work practice.

Institutions are forced into delivering fast track schemes so they do not go under, when in reality, ideological drivers behind them. As the student says above what happens to the diverse areas of SW practice that do not encompass child protection or mental health.

I do not wish to undermine those undertaking fast track programmes. I am sure there are some great practitioners in the making; but fast track programmes train workers – not professionals.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Tom Hughes https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129458 Wed, 24 May 2017 14:39:01 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129458 The reality is Durham, given its world class reputation has never really invested in Social Work and I would imagine axing a struggling course would only help their league table position.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: social worker https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129455 Wed, 24 May 2017 12:51:34 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129455 In reply to Charlotte.

Charlotte – I suspect (suspect only!) that the thinking is that those other social work fields you mention (and others) are not considered a priority, and that work should eventually be managed by families, the community, health, voluntary organisations.

Therefore, the UK would only need to train social workers in child protection work, as a) that is considered the ‘sharp end’, and b) if you have done that, surely you can do everything else?

My view is that the present government will sacrifice any and all public services, including education, health and policing, in order to secure a “vibrant economy”. Conservative ideology has never been about long-term strategy, only short-term benefits and rewards.
We are, as a country, feeling the significant impact of certain decisions made thirty years ago during the Thatcher era, the most obvious being the housing situation. The unfortunate outcome of the “it’s the economy, stupid” mentality is that maintenance of that economy becomes the absolute priority for all successive governments.

Social work and social work training, in the wider context of the country’s current problems, is not going to a be priority. Certainly not for universities that need to manage their provision under a business model. Supply and demand, and the bottom line, have become prioirties for all universities now, whether Russell Group or ex-local colleges/polytechnics.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: frank cliffe https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129451 Wed, 24 May 2017 12:16:29 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129451 Sadly a wrong decision made on a criteria of cost, not the true value of the course.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Charlotte https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129439 Tue, 23 May 2017 21:27:37 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129439 I’m on this course now and was present at the student staff consultation when we were informed. What makes this different to me is that I could never have attended a fast track scheme as they all have summer institutes. I have 3 children, that is not an option. It’ll have a huge impact on the types of people applying to social work, or more seriously how many people who probably have a lot of life experience,that are not recent young grads who will be unable to apply for reasons similar to my own. They also do not train anyone for adults social work, disability social work, refugee/crisis social work. Where will practitioners come from who want to work in a wider parameter than child protection?

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Anon https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/05/23/dismay-university-proposal-shut-social-work-course/#comment-129438 Tue, 23 May 2017 19:59:00 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=154970#comment-129438 I’m not surprised as the “business recruits” leading social care believe they know it all and they really haven’t got a clue legally you need to be social work qualified to manage the iro service the north east is a joke

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